Flat Earth History of Science Chapter 3: Astrology Part 2: Saturn is Noah, Jupiter is Ham and Saturn is not a Planet

“Abraham, the Chaldean, bore upon his breast a large astrological tablet on which the fate of every man might be read; for which reason—according to the haggadist—all the kings of the East and of the West congregated every morning before his door in order to seek advice. It is to this tablet that the words (Gen. xxiv. 1), “the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things,” are said to allude (Tosef., Ḳid. v. 17; B. B. 16b). Abraham himself saw in it that he would have no second son, but God said unto him, “Away with your astrology; for Israel there is no planet!” (Shab. 156a). ”

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2051-astrology

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According to the Heliocentric theory, Saturn is a Planet, sixth from the Sun.

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But for our purposes we are going to confine ourselves to the Geocentric model which is what Ancient Astrology uses. Namely the model of Aristotle and Ptolemy where the Sun is seventh from the Earth:

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I. Now of course, these models are theories and have nothing to do with Scripture or reality which contradicts them both. As the Jewish Encyclopedia records, according to the Jewish tradition there are no such thing as planets. The same is true of reality. What we are seeing with the P900 is not planets. We are seeing lights moving through a celestial Liquid.

The videos of Saturn though have been less lucid.

In mythology, Saturn is ubiquitous, not only in the Greco-Roman tradition but as we will see his roots trace back to the beginnings of Pagan Religion.

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II. In the Greek tradition Saturn is Cronus the great patriarch of three sons and daughters.  The three sons of the Greek Cronus: Poseidon, Hades and Zeus is the Roman: Saturn with three sons Neptune, Pluto and Jupiter.

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We see Saturn was castrated by his son Zeus, who is the Roman Jupiter who is the Egyptian Amun or Hammon or Ham.

saturn2III. We see that Saturn is the great Father who appears at the destruction and remaking of the world, the cycles of death and rebirth in the Orphic Hymn 12:

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IV. The great father that appears at the cycles of death and rebirth is the Noahic flood character as we see in the myth of Manu.

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V. Moreover, another name for Manu in Hindu mythology is Satyavrata, or Saturn.

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https://archive.org/stream/aclassicaldictio00dowsuoft#page/n28/mode/1up

VI. Moreover the Sumerian noahic character Ziusudra, is also known as Xisuthros.  Faber states in his masterpiece, Origin of Pagan Idolatry, Vol. 2, pg. 491,

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VII. Just as Noah fell drunk and naked and was shamed by his Son Ham (Gen. 9:20-27), we read that Saturn got drunk on honey wine and was castrated by Jupiter/Zeus/Hammon/Amun/Ham.

Porphyry,  On the Cave of the Nymphs in the Thirteenth Book of the Odyssey, Section 7,

“In Orpheus, likewise, Saturn is ensnared by Jupiter through honey. For Saturn, being filled with honey, is intoxicated, his senses are darkened, as if from the effects of wine, and he sleeps; just as Porus, in the banquet of Plato, is filled with nectar; for wine was not (says he) yet known. The |22 Goddess Night, too, in Orpheus, advises Jupiter to make use of honey as an artifice. For she says to him:—

“When stretch’d beneath the lofty oaks you view
Saturn, with honey by the bees produc’d
Sunk in ebriety (note 9), fast bind the God.”

This therefore, takes place, and Saturn being bound is emasculated in the same manner as Heaven; the theologist obscurely signifying by this that divine natures become through pleasure bound, and drawn down into the realms of generation; and also that, when dissolved in pleasure they emit certain seminal powers. Hence Saturn emasculates Heaven, when descending to earth through a desire of generation (note 10). But the sweetness of honey signifies, with theologists, the same thing as the pleasure arising from generation, by which Saturn, being ensnared, was castrated. For Saturn, and his sphere, are the first of the orbs that move contrary to the course of Coelum or the heavens.”

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/porphyry_cave_of_nymphs_02_translation.htm

Remember that the Egyptian Ham, or Hammon or Amun is Jupiter.

Herodotus, Histories, Book 2, C. 42,

“At length, when Hercules persisted, Jove hit on a device- to flay a ram, and, cutting off his head, hold the head before him, and cover himself with the fleece. In this guise he showed himself to Hercules.” Therefore the Egyptians give their statues of Jupiter the face of a ram: and from them the practice has passed to the Ammonians, who are a joint colony of Egyptians and Ethiopians, speaking a language between the two; hence also, in my opinion, the latter people took their name of Ammonians, since the Egyptian name for Jupiter is Amun. Such, then, is the reason why the Thebans do not sacrifice rams, but consider them sacred animals. Upon one day in the year, however, at the festival of Jupiter, they slay a single ram, and stripping off the fleece, cover with it the statue of that god, as he once covered himself, and then bring up to the statue of Jove an image of Hercules. When thishas been done, the whole assembly beat their breasts in mourning for the ram, and afterwards bury him in a holy sepulchre.”

http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.2.ii.html

VIII.  Just as Noah fabricated a ship to save his family in the Oceans, Saturn fabricated a cavern in the ocean to hide his family in.

Porphyry,  On the Cave of the Nymphs in the Thirteenth Book of the Odyssey, Section 3,

“Hence Saturn fabricated a cavern in the ocean itself and |13 concealed in it his children. ”

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/porphyry_cave_of_nymphs_02_translation.htm

IX. Cronus/Saturn is the same deity as the ancient Phoenician El, as well as Baal and Molech and the star of Remphan:

John Gill states in his commentary on Acts 7:43:

“Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch

Sometimes called Molech, and sometimes Milcorn; it was the god of the Ammonites, and the same with Baal: the one signifies king, and the other lord; and was, no doubt, the same with the Apis or Serapis of the Egyptians, and the calf of the Israelites. Frequent mention is made of giving seed to Molech, and causing the children to pass through fire to him. The account the Jews give of this image, and of the barbarous worship of it, is this F6: though all idolatrous places were in Jerusalem, Molech was without Jerusalem; and it was made an hollow image, placed within seven chancels or chapels; and whoever offered fine flour, they opened to him the first; if turtle doves or two young pigeons, they opened the second; if a lamb, they opened the third; if a ram, they opened the fourth; if a calf, they opened the fifth; if an ox, they opened the sixth; but whoever offered his son, they opened the seventh: his face was a calf’s, and his hands were stretched out, as a man opens his hands to receive any thing from his friend; and they make him hot with fire, and the priests take the infant and put it into the hands of Molech, and the infant expires: and wherefore is it called Topher and Hinnom? Tophet, because they make a noise with drums, that its father may not hear the voice of the child, and have compassion on it, and return to it; and Hinnom, because the child roars, and the voice of its roaring ascends.”

Others give a milder account of this matter, and say, that the service was after this manner F7; that the father delivered his son to the priests, who made two large fires, and caused the son to pass on his feet between the two fires, so that it was only a sort of a lustration or purification by fire; but the former account, which makes the child to be sacrificed, and put to death, seems best to agree with the scriptural one. Now this idol was included in chancels or chapels, as in the account given, or in shrines, in tabernacles, or portable temples, which might be taken up and carried; and such an one is here mentioned: by which is meant, not the tabernacle of the Lord made by Bezaleel; as if the sense was, that the idolatrous Israelites, though not openly, yet secretly, and in their hearts worshipped Moloch, as if he was included in the tabernacle; so that to take it up means no other, than in the heart to worship, and to consider him as if he had been shut up and carried in that tabernacle; nor is it to be thought that they publicly took up, and carried a tabernacle, in which was the image of Moloch, during their forty years’ travels in the wilderness; for whatever they might do the few days they worshipped the golden calf, which is possible, it cannot be received, that Moses, who was so severe against idolatry, would ever have connived at such a practice: this therefore must have reference to after times, when they sacrificed their children to him, and took up and carried his image in little shrines and tabernacles.

And the star of your god Remphan.

The Alexandrian copy reads “Raiphan”; some copies read “Raphan”; and so the Arabic version; others “Rephan”; the Syriac version reads “Rephon”; and the Ethiopic version “Rephom”. Giants, with the Hebrews, were called “Rephaim”; and so Moloch, who is here meant, is called “Rephan”, and with an epenthesis “Remphan”, because of his gigantic form; which some have concluded from the massy crown on his head, which, with the precious stones, weighed a talent of gold, which David took from thence, ( 2 Samuel 12:30 ) for not the then reigning king of the Ammonites, but Molech, or Milchom, their idol, is meant: this is generally thought to be the same with Chiun in Amos; but it does not stand in a place to answer to that; besides, that should not be left untranslated, it not being a proper name of an idol, but signifies a type or form; and the whole may be rendered thus, “but ye have borne the tabernacle of your king, and the type, or form of your images, the star of your god”; which version agrees with Stephens’s, who, from the Septuagint, adds the name of this their king, and their god Rephan, or Remphan. Drusius conjectures, that this is a fault of the Scribes writing Rephan for Cephan, or that the Septuagint interpreters mistook the letter (k) for (r) , and instead of Cevan read Revan; and Chiun is indeed, by Kimchi and Aben Ezra F8, said to be the same with Chevan, which, in the Ishmaelitish and Persian languages, signifies Saturn; and so does Rephan in the Egyptian language:”

Eusebius of Caesarea: Praeparatio Evangelica (Preparation for the Gospel). Tr. E.H. Gifford (1903) — Book 1, C. 10,

“Let these suffice as quotations from the writings of Sanchuniathon, translated by Philo of Byblos, and approved as true by the testimony of Porphyry the philosopher.

The same author, in his History of the Jews, further writes thus concerning Kronos:

‘Tauthus, whom the Egyptians call Thoyth, excelled in wisdom among the Phoenicians, and was the first to rescue the worship of the gods from the ignorance of the vulgar, and arrange it in the order of intelligent experience. Many generations after him a god Sourmoubelos and Thuro, whose name was changed to Eusarthis, brought to light the theology of Tauthus which had been hidden and overshadowed, by allegories.’

And soon after he says:

‘It was a custom of the ancients in great crises of danger for the rulers of a city or nation, in order to avert the common ruin, to give up the most beloved of their children for sacrifice as a ransom to the avenging daemons; and those who were thus given up were sacrificed with mystic rites. Kronos then, whom the Phoenicians call Elus, who was king of the country and subsequently, after his decease, was deified as the star Saturn, had by a nymph of the country named Anobret an only begotten son, whom they on this account called ledud, the only begotten being still so called among the Phoenicians; and when very great dangers from war had beset the country, he arrayed his son in royal apparel, and prepared an altar, and sacrificed him.’”

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/eusebius_pe_01_book1.htm

The Passion of Perpetua and Felicity by Thomas J. Heffernan (Oxford University Press), pg. 330,

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_Hammon

http://www.ancient.eu/Carthaginian_Religion/

 

 

 

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